I’ll fess up. I spent three hours the other night (happily) watching Bravo TV. Yep, those Housewives again.
Embarrassing Behaviors
First I watched the Real Housewives of Orange County (the Reunion Show, in two parts). Then I watched the newest episode of Real Housewives of New York. Twice.
Okay, make that four hours of Reality TV.
The Orange County women were, quite simply, an embarrassment to themselves (and to me, as a woman). As for New York? I was entertained by their fashion, style, and shenanigans – up to a point. I found myself asking – relative to all of these women (with one exception, Alex McCord) – we know they aren’t “real housewives,” but are they even real adults?
Why are we presented so many women fighting on reality TV? The shows are heavily edited, and we get that. But heightening drama (divorce, illness, a lover’s spat) is one thing, and yes, I find it distracting (the reason I watch). But the amount of squabbling seems to be escalating, and at a furious pace! And the dirty digs? The allegiance switching, malicious misunderstandings, and vicious remarks among these women?
Is this your reality? Women incapable of sustaining friendships with each other?
Reality High School?
I had good friends in high school, both girls and guys.
As for college, my friends (all women) were spectacular. At the time, they ranged in age from 16 to 22, and they were smart, giving, aware of others and their feelings. I remain in touch with many of them, more than 30 years later.
Have there been allegiances in my life that dissolved? Friendships that were strained through changing circumstances? Of course. Just as that occurs in marriage, it can happen in friendship. But it has not been the rule in my friendships; it is the exception.
Following divorce, some of the women in my life walked away. It was painful, though I understood the reasons why. But generally, friendships with women have nourished me. And I imagine they always will.
Women and Gossip
Why do adults gossip? Why do women gossip?
I readily admit, I am not without fault on this subject. There are times I’ve said something I shouldn’t have, and felt guilty for doing so. Nothing like the digs these Real Housewives make!
Remember that adage – if you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything at all? This is what I try to practice, though I don’t always succeed. I believe that words hurt, and while gossip may serve the purpose of making one feel “better” (through nasty comparisons), it’s a temporary fix. I’m not proud of myself when I engage in gossip, and I hope I don’t do so often.
- Do you gossip?
- Do you think women gossip more than men?
- As an adult, do you believe that it’s harmful?
Real friends, real women
I cherish the women in my life, and cannot imagine dishing out or receiving the kind of digs and misbehaviors seen on these shows. As we approach what appears to be the end of a genuine friendship (Bethenny and Jill on the Real Housewives of New York), I am disheartened.
Losing a friend is painful; most of us know what it’s like. Irreparable rifts over changing circumstances, one misunderstanding that leads to another – sometimes it happens, and there’s no going back. But do I really want to see this played out on television?
So what’s up with these women? Especially the New Yorkers?
I’ve come to expect more ridiculous (and typically “catty”) behaviors from the OC and Atlanta franchises. But the New Yorkers let us see their real faces in the morning (refreshing), little makeup when they’re at the beach (normal), and even interacting in more usual ways with their children (amazing!).
And yet… they’re increasingly behaving like 14 year old teens, though frankly, my teens have always exhibited more sense, and more loyalty.
Human nature to erect idols and then tear them down?
I’ve said this before; I’m not sure why I’m watching. There are elements that are enjoyable, including the fashion and style of the New York women – their events, their clothes, their charitable works (which aren’t contrived, or so it seems). I enjoy the relationship between Simon and Alex (I find them intelligent and creative). I have also loved the (seemingly) genuine friendship between Bethneny and Jill, and seeing the former do so well after what we sense has been a hard and painful road.
I find Bethenny’s humor wickedly delicious (though it’s not for everyone). I love that she has found a good man (against the odds). I love that her career is going well. And she’s now pregnant, at 39, and appears to be happy – and somewhat incredulous – at her good fortune. I love her vulnerability, and I think that’s a wonderful quality to show on national television. Strong women are no less vulnerable than those who haven’t had to go it alone.
But the attacks and counterattacks? The hurtful behaviors? Building up friends (or idols) only to tear them down? Hello, adolescence?
Reality TV intervention
I continue to watch, for now. Somewhat reluctantly. But that intervention I joked about once – it may be just around the corner.
Life is painful enough, and lonely without close friends. And I believe in women – in their strength and their loyalty. In their compassion and equanimity. I have no desire to watch women rip each other apart on national television, scripted, unscripted, or in any other way.
Right now, these TV shows are leaving me saddened. The women of Orange County seem uber-dysfunctional. I take no pleasure in observing their dirty tricks, their public arguments, their troubled marriages, their problematic parenting, their loss of jobs and homes and dreams. Does it all cut too close to the core?
I want something different in my mindless television. Something silly, provocative, uplifting, amusing. And that’s what these shows were initially. When reality – real reality – is damn difficult, it’s amusing to watch reality TV which is diverting. But not this. Not the extreme hurt, the fighting, the real pain these real adults must be feeling. Even if they aren’t friends, and they are providing what someone believes the public wants to watch.
Time for me to go to the movies instead, and see some recently award-winning films?
Stacia says
The older I get, the less tolerance I have for gossip. Do I still do it? Sure, occasionally. And, like you, I always feel terrible. I suppose a big part of it stems from not wanting my children to be on the hurtful end of gossip when they reach adolescence (help!) that I want to do all I can to keep it out of our lives. Easier said than done, I realize … Just ask those housewives!
Mindy@SingleMomSays says
From my experience, yes, women can be as bad as the women on the housewives. Worse even. Some people have some serious f’ing issues, especially the insecure married women with single friends – those two do not mix well. At all.
I have ZERO tolerance for shallow, gossipy, catty women. But somehow that does make some pretty intersting T.V. viewing.
Amber says
I wonder if the internet has taken gossip to an extreme. We hear “breaking news stories” about celebrities, government officials, and other public figures that turn out to be glorified gossip tidbits (Tiger Woods anyone?). With that in mind, I would say men gossip as much as women–in a different manner.
I would say these reality TV shows are prime examples of hateful attitudes. I am saddened by the reminders of how, as humans, we seek to destroy rather than build.
BigLittleWolf says
Amber – I think you’re right about the internet taking gossip to new… um, lows.
Vanna says
It isn’t as bothersome as when the women of my culture start talking to each other. Mind you, they do not speak English when they gossip.
Vanna says
As for women being incapable of friendships, sort of, not really though. That’s because of factors such as exes, not tolerating other women who gossip, etc.
Daily Connoisseur says
Oh my God. I admit to watching this show too! I watch every season- OC, NY, NJ and Atlanta! It really is hard not to watch. I think there are so many fights because they all want to be on the next season (seriously) and they realize that if they are peaceful and normal, that does not make for good tv. so sad- but true!
Kelly says
I don’t watch the Real Housewives franchise, but I do spend lots of time with the Bad Girls Club, which may be even worse. My choice is based on voyeurism alone because I’ve never been one to treat people so horribly (not to mention being proud of that behavior).
However, I’ve begun finding more balance. For instance, I love Undercover Boss for it’s uplifting and inspiring messages. Okay, that’s the only good to balance the bad, but it’s a start!
BigLittleWolf says
Kelly! Undercover Boss! (I saw it once and was amazed. It is indeed very uplifting.) Is that now a regular show? Fascinating concept – if only all company executives would go undercover in their own companies – and see what their employees go through and how their decisions affect so many lives. So glad you mentioned that show.
Privilege of Parenting says
I wonder if these mean dysfunctional characters are a bit like kids, wanting attention so badly that they’ll be as mean as they can muster if they think that’s what the group will watch. As for building up our heroes and then tearing them down, it does seem like an American mean-streak that I too would love to see come to an end.
I like what you say about gossip—so human (and a bit fun in the moment), and yet it always makes us feel worse rather than better in the long-run… plus it deteriorates our trust in others (the very thing these reality shows seem to only exacerbate).
BarMitzvahzilla says
I guess it just wouldn’t make for good TV to watch a bunch of smart, supportive women be there for each other through thick and thin, through major illnesses, through breakups and divorces, through every kind of trauma, like what really happens in the world I live in.
Man, BLW, I have got to watch those shows! Even if my husband makes fun of me. Is Jersey Shore like ten thousand times worse? 🙂
BigLittleWolf says
Hey Linda. I cannot stomach the NJ women. They appall me. Watched twice (in the background, while editing – all this “tv watching” is while editing in the evenings). No thanks. Yeah – I guess women supporting each other would be less dramatic. On the other hand, I’d probably watch. And if you haven’t seen the “Undercover Boss” show Kelly mentioned, it’s really pretty cool. Someone doing GOOD – and it’s real. What a concept!
Rebecca @ Diary of a Virgin Novelist says
Well, I am a gossip. I can’t help it. I don’t divulge secrets and I try not to be (too) malicious but I love the excitement and drama that often comes with a juicy bit of gossip.
Okay, fine. I guess I am 12 years old. 🙂
Nicki says
I use to watch the RH franchise ages ago when it first started and there was only the OC. I haven’t watched in ages. I find I seldom watch TV. I try but the shows I want to watch are on “way past my bedtime.” My television is more than likely tuned to sports.
TheKitchenWitch says
I haven’t watched any of these shows, but I’ve sure heard about them. I think the network purposefully picked the most obnoxious bunch they could, knowing that people would be attracted to the drama (like a car crash, you know?).
Women definitely gossip more than men. Well, “straight” men, anyways. 🙂
Aidan Donnelley Rowley @ Ivy League Insecurities says
These days, I watch little television. Even of the mindless breed. And, frankly, I miss it. I miss the zoning out, the effortless smiles, the sense of floating. But, I agree. Some TV, real housewife TV in particular, is too much. It is a caricature. And it is upsetting. That said, I don’t mind the NY cast and I may or may not go DVR the rest of the season 🙂
I have noticed that in my old age (Ha, I know) I have much less tolerance for gossip (like Stacia notes above). I credit this to Husband who has never been a gossip and to the fact that I live my days in the orbit of two tiny girls who look to me as an example.
Thoughtful post.
Carmie, the Single Nester says
This show is a train wreck and I cannot turn away. I do like the NY series as that is where I am fun but they really are ridiculous. But not as ridiculous as the New Jersey “ladies.” They are a disgrace to Italian-Americans!