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		<title>Sex and the Divorced Dad, Part Deux</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awhile back I asked for input from divorced dads willing to talk about sex and dating. I was curious, and wanted to see how their experience stacked up to the female side of the solar system.  
I make the distinction between divorced dads and single dads of other types because, let&#8217;s be honest, divorce is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awhile back I asked for <a title="Big Little Wolf: Divorced dads talk about sex and dating Part 1" href="http://dailyplateofcrazy.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/divorced-dads-talk-about-sex-and-dating/" target="_blank">input from divorced dads willing to talk about sex and dating</a>. I was curious, and wanted to see how their experience stacked up to the female side of the solar system.  <img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-6893" title="Penelope Cruz, courtesy WireImage, is certainly among the hotties who gets the heart racing. " src="http://dailyplateofcrazy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/penelope-cruz-courtesy-wireimage.jpg?w=207" alt="Penelope Cruz, courtesy WireImage, is certainly among the hotties who gets the heart racing. " width="207" height="300" /></p>
<p>I make the distinction between <em>divorced dads </em>and single dads of other types because, let&#8217;s be honest, divorce is often a long and contentious process. Approaching a new relationship &#8211; sexual or otherwise &#8211; carries mixed emotions. After all, I&#8217;m a divorced woman who&#8217;s been through it &#8211; from separation to the first year or two in a new &#8220;status,&#8221; to re-entering those tumultuous dating waters. And having written about <a title="Big Little Wolf: Sex and the single mom" href="http://dailyplateofcrazy.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/sex-and-the-single-mom/" target="_self">sex and the single mom</a>, I wanted to hear from divorced dads.</p>
<h3><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong><strong>The data </strong></strong></span></h3>
<p>While I don&#8217;t claim to have representative data, I <em>do </em>have input from both sides of the Mississippi and &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; France.</p>
<p><strong><span id="more-3549"></span></strong>And my, my, but you dads are discreet! <em>I am impressed. </em>It&#8217;s nice to see that most of you do not kiss-and-tell. But you did lend a bit of your experience to my informal queries, which may help some of our single moms know what&#8217;s up as we try to decipher your behaviors. So thanks to the dads who provided a few tales and tidbits, which was enough to share what follows.</p>
<h3><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Booze and booty </strong></span></h3>
<ul>
<li>No surprise here, but booty calls are alive and well, including among men in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. And yes,  alcohol is often involved.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Internet booty calls are very popular as an initial method of meet-and-greet, leading to a cocktail or two, and you-know-what.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>When it comes to Internet dating &#8211; the visual still rules! That initial photo makes a big difference &#8211; for both sides of the gender divide.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Men <em>do </em>lie about age, height <em>and </em>relationship status; some figure it&#8217;s irrelevant, particularly if booty is the objective<em>. </em>(Women do this, too, from the stories I&#8217;ve heard from men.)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Men don&#8217;t care so much about a woman&#8217;s lies &#8211; <em>if </em>they&#8217;re just looking for a hook-up.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>If a man <em>likes </em>a woman, honesty is important, right from the start.</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>&#8220;No thanks&#8221; is rare, but not unheard of</strong></span></h3>
<ul>
<li>Divorced dads can score pretty easily, <em>if they choose to. </em>Not all do.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Some men seek emotional attachment, or at least a &#8220;liking&#8221; for the lady before bedding her, and that may take more than a few dates.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Sex on the first date often means no seconds &#8211; date, that is. And generally, it&#8217;s a relationship killer.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Those initial impressions are indelible &#8211; resemblance to a photo (if Internet-introduced), scent, voice, smile.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Getting back in the game isn&#8217;t a given; it takes time for re-entry, both to socialize comfortably, or to score.</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#d60000;"><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hot in bed, luke warm in life <img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6895" title="Vanessa Williams gets many a single dad's heart pounding. " src="http://dailyplateofcrazy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanessa-williams-gets-many-a-single-dads-heart-pounding.jpg" alt="Vanessa Williams gets many a single dad's heart pounding. " width="249" height="336" /></span><br />
</strong></span></h3>
<ul>
<li>For many who are newly divorced, it&#8217;s <em>all about the sex; </em>for some, it&#8217;s an attempt to heal through <em>relationship</em>. (Guys, the same is true for the women I know.)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Great sex doesn&#8217;t require emotional connection, and a great relationship doesn&#8217;t guarantee great sex. No scoop here! But we are reminded that sex and love are not one and the same.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>That aside, <em>many </em>intrepid divorced dads are looking for both!</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Kids and privacy</strong></span></h3>
<ul>
<li>Separation of church and state seems to be the rule. Divorced dads <em>don&#8217;t </em>bring someone around to meet their kids unless there&#8217;s a relationship. It needn&#8217;t have run-off-to-Vegas in the future, but it&#8217;s more than a fling.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Otherwise, sexual adventures are kept out of sight and out of earshot.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Age of children and custodial arrangements are significant factors in sleepovers and meetings.</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#d60000;"><strong><span style="color:#0000ff;">Hearts and parts</span><br />
</strong></span></h3>
<ul>
<li>For some, experimentation takes priority &#8211; sampling many flowers in a variety of gardens may be the norm, for some time after divorce.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>When a man <em>really likes a woman, </em>he takes his time. Or at least, <em>more time, </em>before making a move.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Long-term divorced dads have left their share of broken hearts, and had theirs shredded a time or two.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Repeaters abound (to my surprise) &#8211; those who continue to fall for women who are <em>guaranteed</em> to break their hearts. (This is not confined to men, or those who are divorced.)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Preferred parts of the female form are, of course, a matter of personal preference. There are as many ass men as leg men as boob men and small-of-the-back men&#8230; well, you get the picture. And dating younger (women), or wanting to, is still verrrrry common.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Single dads interested in a <em>relationship, </em>if they&#8217;re actively involved with their kids, want to date women<em> </em>who are moms; there&#8217;s common ground of the most fundamental sort.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>In the population I sampled &#8211; late 30s to mid 60s &#8211; when the heart is involved, <em>the rest is secondary. </em>Parts are parts, and hearts rule. Maybe we get better with age in more ways than one!</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Fab date 1. Fab date 2. NO date 3. Just not that into me?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even that first phone call was thrilling. This was one Internet date I knew I was going to enjoy! 
And it turned out we knew each other, too &#8211; by reputation. We had friends in common, and traveled in adjacent professional circles. How cool was that!
Our first encounter sparkled. Time flew over mid-morning coffee that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even that first phone call was thrilling. This was one Internet date I knew I was going to enjoy! <img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-6199" title="There's that wonderful thump-thump-thump of the heart when he calls..." src="http://dailyplateofcrazy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/theres-that-wonderful-thump-thump-thump-of-the-heart-when-he-calls.jpg?w=300" alt="There's that wonderful thump-thump-thump of the heart when he calls..." width="300" height="254" /></p>
<p>And it turned out we knew each other, too &#8211; by reputation. We had friends in common, and traveled in adjacent professional circles. How cool was that!</p>
<p>Our first encounter<em> sparkled.</em> Time flew over mid-morning coffee that turned into a lazy Saturday brunch. Three hours later we still couldn&#8217;t stop laughing and talking, so we strolled to a nearby bookstore. There, we wandered the aisles, chatted about our favorite books, and told each other stories.</p>
<p><em>What&#8217;s this? Five o&#8217;clock? </em>Might as well have a cocktail, so we headed to a café, where drinks turned into dinner, and eventually, a steamy goodnight kiss at the end of a 12-hour date that astonished both of us.</p>
<h3><span style="color:#c5242e;"><strong>Fab date 1, more to come!</strong></span></h3>
<p>The following weekend, we had another spectacular time &#8211; romance, fun, and a lingering embrace that made the earlier lip lock look like kindergarten fare.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-6202" title="Great Date 2... mmmm I can hardly wait for that Third Date!" src="http://dailyplateofcrazy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/great-date-2-mmmm-i-can-hardly-wait-for-that-third-date1.jpg" alt="Great Date 2... mmmm I can hardly wait for that Third Date!" width="254" height="393" /></p>
<p>We set a tentative Date 3, confirmed the next day with a spicy email, to which I responded with equal enthusiasm. And then&#8230; <em>nothing.</em> The days slogged along. Still nothing. On the fifth day, a little note &#8211; &#8220;So sorry. Completely tied up at work. We&#8217;ll try for next week, okay?&#8221;</p>
<p>My response: &#8220;No problem. Looking forward to it.&#8221;</p>
<h3><span style="color:#c5242e;"><strong>Waiting by the phone (or keyboard)<br />
</strong></span></h3>
<p>The next week came and went, and I felt 17 again. And just as miffed! No email, no call, no nothing.</p>
<p><em>Did I imagine those two magical dates and the simmering chemistry that was&#8230; um, demonstrable?</em> He wasn&#8217;t dead, and he wasn&#8217;t out of town; I ran into someone who had seen him at a professional function. <em> </em></p>
<h3><span style="color:#c5242e;"><strong>Disappearance, thy name is 21st century dating</strong></span></h3>
<p>Fab date 1, fab date 2, NO date 3? Huh?</p>
<ul>
<li>Was he &#8220;just not that into me?&#8221;</li>
<li>How do you go from hot to not, in just 24 hours??</li>
<li>Was he seeing other people, and switched me out in a flash?</li>
<li>Did it have to do with the fact that we <em>did </em>move in similar circles?</li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="color:#c5242e;"><strong>My own disappearing act</strong></span></h3>
<p>I&#8217;ve pulled a disappearing act or two myself since the Brave New World of Post-Divorce Dating. Usually when I was swamped with kid duties and deadlines, and simply got side-tracked. But pulling a Houdini isn&#8217;t my usual style. And this one baffles me.</p>
<p>Not only was I up for <a title="Third Date Sex" href="http://dailyplateofcrazy.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/third-date-sex-and-the-ldr/" target="_blank">Third Date Goodies</a>, but so was he&#8230; and I genuinely liked this guy and thought it was mutual.  Que pasa? And has this happened to you?<br />
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